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	<description>Setting government digital policy with your involvement</description>
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		<title>By: Mismar</title>
		<link>http://coi.gov.uk/blogs/digigov/2009/12/measuring-digital-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-34676</link>
		<dc:creator>Mismar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Measurement should be against the objectives of the whole communications exercise. I think anything else is a distraction…&quot;

i totally agree with that. i also liked that. maybe you would like to have a look.

http://www.slideshare.net/scottmburns/measuring-mission-value-of-digital-communications-in-the-public-sector-and-9-rules-of-engagement</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Measurement should be against the objectives of the whole communications exercise. I think anything else is a distraction…&#8221;</p>
<p>i totally agree with that. i also liked that. maybe you would like to have a look.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slideshare.net/scottmburns/measuring-mission-value-of-digital-communications-in-the-public-sector-and-9-rules-of-engagement" rel="nofollow">http://www.slideshare.net/scottmburns/measuring-mission-value-of-digital-communications-in-the-public-sector-and-9-rules-of-engagement</a></p>
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		<title>By: cyberdoyle</title>
		<link>http://coi.gov.uk/blogs/digigov/2009/12/measuring-digital-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-8388</link>
		<dc:creator>cyberdoyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All very interesting and it is obvious that government is working very hard to get things right. Kudos.
The problem still remains that a third of the country won&#039;t be able to access these sites except on dial up. Despite the assurances of ofcom and BT there are many who can&#039;t get a decent broadband connection. www.finalthirdfirst.org 
Just sayin.
chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All very interesting and it is obvious that government is working very hard to get things right. Kudos.<br />
The problem still remains that a third of the country won&#8217;t be able to access these sites except on dial up. Despite the assurances of ofcom and BT there are many who can&#8217;t get a decent broadband connection. <a href="http://www.finalthirdfirst.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.finalthirdfirst.org</a><br />
Just sayin.<br />
chris</p>
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		<title>By: The Conservatives&#8217; nudge to marketers / we are social</title>
		<link>http://coi.gov.uk/blogs/digigov/2009/12/measuring-digital-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-723</link>
		<dc:creator>The Conservatives&#8217; nudge to marketers / we are social</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more robust measurement and evaluation tools and methodologies – something we’ve seen the COI thinking about recently. However, it&#8217;s unclear how rigorously this proposal might be implemented – achieving [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more robust measurement and evaluation tools and methodologies – something we’ve seen the COI thinking about recently. However, it&#8217;s unclear how rigorously this proposal might be implemented – achieving [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Bailin</title>
		<link>http://coi.gov.uk/blogs/digigov/2009/12/measuring-digital-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Bailin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Measurementcamp looks interesting, I might have to go to the next one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Measurementcamp looks interesting, I might have to go to the next one.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Bailin</title>
		<link>http://coi.gov.uk/blogs/digigov/2009/12/measuring-digital-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Bailin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments guys. I agree there is a need for further qual and quant measures in addition to the ones suggested. I guess what I was trying to do was to isolate those specifically characterised by the social nature of channel, those arising out of peer-to-peer realtionships. All of the additional measures you suggest make sense.

The risk of creating a set of standard metrics is that they become the focus and could lead to other important measures being overlooked. Conversely, the risk of not having a core set is that it&#039;s harder to compare with other campaigns/engagements and therefore judge success. I  agree that the most important thing is delivery of objectives but how do the comparable bits rate and did they contribute to the overall success?

Perhaps it is a futile exercise but it&#039;s an interesting debate all the same!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments guys. I agree there is a need for further qual and quant measures in addition to the ones suggested. I guess what I was trying to do was to isolate those specifically characterised by the social nature of channel, those arising out of peer-to-peer realtionships. All of the additional measures you suggest make sense.</p>
<p>The risk of creating a set of standard metrics is that they become the focus and could lead to other important measures being overlooked. Conversely, the risk of not having a core set is that it&#8217;s harder to compare with other campaigns/engagements and therefore judge success. I  agree that the most important thing is delivery of objectives but how do the comparable bits rate and did they contribute to the overall success?</p>
<p>Perhaps it is a futile exercise but it&#8217;s an interesting debate all the same!</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Franklin</title>
		<link>http://coi.gov.uk/blogs/digigov/2009/12/measuring-digital-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Measurement should be against the objectives of the whole communications exercise. I think anything else is a distraction... 

Steph&#039;s right when he raises the need for qual and quant metrics to fully understand the depth of engagement. I saw one presentation at Forrester&#039;s London conference last month which really crystallised this approach. The trick is to home in on the communications objective, and then tease out what &quot;influence&quot; &quot;reach&quot; or &quot;quality of interaction&quot; mean as a measurable target through each channel chosen in the digital layer of the project. 

The most easily measurable parts of an exercise could well be the most distracting and unuseful in the long-term. It&#039;s the same reason we keep being asked for &quot;hits&quot; rather than anything more meaningful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Measurement should be against the objectives of the whole communications exercise. I think anything else is a distraction&#8230; </p>
<p>Steph&#8217;s right when he raises the need for qual and quant metrics to fully understand the depth of engagement. I saw one presentation at Forrester&#8217;s London conference last month which really crystallised this approach. The trick is to home in on the communications objective, and then tease out what &#8220;influence&#8221; &#8220;reach&#8221; or &#8220;quality of interaction&#8221; mean as a measurable target through each channel chosen in the digital layer of the project. </p>
<p>The most easily measurable parts of an exercise could well be the most distracting and unuseful in the long-term. It&#8217;s the same reason we keep being asked for &#8220;hits&#8221; rather than anything more meaningful.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph Gray</title>
		<link>http://coi.gov.uk/blogs/digigov/2009/12/measuring-digital-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As measures, that&#039;s a reasonable starting point. But there&#039;s a real danger in picking a handful of measurable elements and defining - perhaps inadvertently - that that&#039;s what counts in a publicly-funded digital engagement project in the eyes of agencies and auditors.

What about:
- how much use the policy team clients found the project to be
- what role digital played in relation to other channels
- what the outcome was in terms of the take up of the call to action
- how the participants felt about the process, and what they did next (did they stay involved? join the group but never re-visit?) etc
- what the return on investment was in terms of effort/cost to useful outcomes?

Will McInnes is doing interesting things on these questions at Measurementcamp, I understand: http://measurementcamp.wikidot.com/

We&#039;ve also struggled rather to come up with an evaluation model we think works, but the ingredients for me would have to be:

- quantitative assessments of effort/cost input
- qualitative assessments of success in delivering the project
- quantitative measures of reach
- quantitative and qualitative assessments of engagement
- qualitative assessments of the value to the policy/comms clients
- an element of follow-up/review to see what the longer term impact was, including in unintended areas such as greater engagement by policy officials</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As measures, that&#8217;s a reasonable starting point. But there&#8217;s a real danger in picking a handful of measurable elements and defining &#8211; perhaps inadvertently &#8211; that that&#8217;s what counts in a publicly-funded digital engagement project in the eyes of agencies and auditors.</p>
<p>What about:<br />
- how much use the policy team clients found the project to be<br />
- what role digital played in relation to other channels<br />
- what the outcome was in terms of the take up of the call to action<br />
- how the participants felt about the process, and what they did next (did they stay involved? join the group but never re-visit?) etc<br />
- what the return on investment was in terms of effort/cost to useful outcomes?</p>
<p>Will McInnes is doing interesting things on these questions at Measurementcamp, I understand: <a href="http://measurementcamp.wikidot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://measurementcamp.wikidot.com/</a></p>
<p>We&#8217;ve also struggled rather to come up with an evaluation model we think works, but the ingredients for me would have to be:</p>
<p>- quantitative assessments of effort/cost input<br />
- qualitative assessments of success in delivering the project<br />
- quantitative measures of reach<br />
- quantitative and qualitative assessments of engagement<br />
- qualitative assessments of the value to the policy/comms clients<br />
- an element of follow-up/review to see what the longer term impact was, including in unintended areas such as greater engagement by policy officials</p>
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		<title>By: Sergio Maldonado</title>
		<link>http://coi.gov.uk/blogs/digigov/2009/12/measuring-digital-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergio Maldonado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

We have also done extensive research and come up with a set of eGov measurement KPIs over here: http://www.imue.org 

Some Spanish ministries and local governments are already implementing the IMUE scorecard. 

Only problem, it is all in Spanish thus far :) But happy to translate if you give us some time!

Regards,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>We have also done extensive research and come up with a set of eGov measurement KPIs over here: <a href="http://www.imue.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.imue.org</a> </p>
<p>Some Spanish ministries and local governments are already implementing the IMUE scorecard. </p>
<p>Only problem, it is all in Spanish thus far <img src='http://coi.gov.uk/blogs/digigov/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  But happy to translate if you give us some time!</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Bailin</title>
		<link>http://coi.gov.uk/blogs/digigov/2009/12/measuring-digital-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Bailin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin, thanks for the links. I&#039;ll will definitely check those out. I did look at a different Forrester report on Social Media Metrics but these look interesting too.

Actually, Joolz was one of the colleagues I referred to!

Happy to chat any time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin, thanks for the links. I&#8217;ll will definitely check those out. I did look at a different Forrester report on Social Media Metrics but these look interesting too.</p>
<p>Actually, Joolz was one of the colleagues I referred to!</p>
<p>Happy to chat any time.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Grant, We Are Social</title>
		<link>http://coi.gov.uk/blogs/digigov/2009/12/measuring-digital-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Grant, We Are Social</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adam

We&#039;ve done a lot of thinking in this area (and already shared some of it with your colleague Joolz as part of the PR evaluation consultation). It&#039;s also worth looking at Forrester&#039;s work in this area:
http://www.forrester.com/Research/Document/Excerpt/0,7211,42124,00.html
http://www.forrester.com/Research/Document/Excerpt/0,7211,44421,00.html

I&#039;d be happy to come in and chat about this if you felt it useful...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adam</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve done a lot of thinking in this area (and already shared some of it with your colleague Joolz as part of the PR evaluation consultation). It&#8217;s also worth looking at Forrester&#8217;s work in this area:<br />
<a href="http://www.forrester.com/Research/Document/Excerpt/0,7211,42124,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forrester.com/Research/Document/Excerpt/0,7211,42124,00.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.forrester.com/Research/Document/Excerpt/0,7211,44421,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forrester.com/Research/Document/Excerpt/0,7211,44421,00.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d be happy to come in and chat about this if you felt it useful&#8230;</p>
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